The Rafale and Peter Collins

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I was sad to hear that Peter Collins passed away this Summer. Collins flew Harrier GR3s with the RAF, Sea Harriers in the Falklands on exchange with the Royal Navy Fleet Air Arm, and the VAAC Harrier (which was instrumental in developing the flight control laws for the F-35B). He also flew with the Red Arrows. Flying both the exceptionally demanding Harrier and as a member of one of the world’s best aerobatic teams show him to have been an exceptionally gifted pilot.

Peter later became Flight International’s test pilot. His glowing review of the Rafale was particularly interesting. With his great experience and knowledge of flying fighter aircraft, I was keen to ask his opinion on modern fighters. I  also asked him about the perennial Rafale versus Typhoon question. As he has flown Rafale and the Typhoon simulator (programmed to represent the latest variant) he was one of the most qualified to discuss this subject. It was last December that I had the chance to bombard him with my schoolboy questions. 

In regards to within-visual range combat he noted:

“This is always difficult to call. The Typhoon helmet mounted display, especially in the yet to be ordered Striker 2 version, is superb. I think the Rafale would eat Typhoon below 10,000ft. The Bug (legacy Hornet) is also superb”

Peter was a staunch supporter of the Rafale, and believed many underestimate it.

“My 2009 article for Flight international stands. If I was buying a multi-role aircraft  I would buy Rafale but an awful lot of politics, economics, offset deals, military preference and bias comes in the way…I’m not paid by Dassault or Eurofighter. Remember that the Rafale is designed to replace seven French types: Jaguar, Marine F-8 Crusader, Marine Super Etendard, Mirage F1, Mirage F1R, M2000C and the M2000N – which is probably why it is optimised for lower levels. It is recce-, nuclear (ASMP)- , carrier-capable (something Typhoon will never be), it has AESA, is getting Meteor, drops SCALP, Hammer and LGB. It has better low-observable shaping, and will stick with Typhoon below 20,000 feet. It has very good electronic countermeasures in SPECTRA, and has better flight control system characteristics (I’ve flown it). It also has GPS based, and therefore silent, auto terrain following. It also has forward optics for visual identification. It is the best fighter aircraft I have ever flown.”

He was also mindful of the pitfalls of writing about military aircraft “Careful you don’t put your name to something and be seen as a ‘useful idiot’ by an aircraft manufacturer.” Indeed, much of aviation ‘journalism’ is the uncritical copy and pasting of press statements, and this is an important thing to remember.

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5 comments
  1. yves pagot's avatar

    Yep he was indeed found of Rafale (and of Dassault FCS generally speaking). If you read a little french… http://www.portail-aviation.com/2016/09/farewell-peter-james-collins.html

  2. Dan Banan's avatar

    The Rafale is a JSF that actually works.

  3. Jon Lake's avatar

    Everyone would, I’m sure share your shock and sadness at the tragic and wasteful manner of Pete’s passing. Many will have mourned the passing of a much loved friend or a valued colleague. I hope that certain people at ******** are happy with the contribution they may have made to his mental state at the end, or at least with their failure to recognise the terrible stress that he must have been under and their failure to do more to help. The contrast with the way Flight treated him is stark – everyone at Flight liked, respected and enjoyed Pete, and I am sure that must have pleased him. Perhaps that’s an unfair comment – but there seems to have been a wider HR problem at that first company at that time. His achievements are obvious to anyone, and I would acknowledge that he was a better man than I and a better writer. Not everyone would agree with his Rafale flight test for Flight, however. One of his contemporaries pointed out to me at the time that Pete had little recent relevant operational experience that would have allowed him to usefully compare Rafale with its contemporaries, and no actual experience of Typhoon at all. Another pointed out that after ETPS Pete went to Bedford, not Boscombe, and did not have a ‘proper TP’ job, evaluating aircraft or systems and intimating that he was not really qualified to evaluate an aircraft like Rafale. His breathless enthusiasm for Rafale made for an entertaining read, and won him an army of French fans, but fell short of offering a full, useful or unbiased evaluation. But while I am happy to criticise one of his articles and to convey the thoughts of some others, I would absolutely share Hush Kits overall respect, admiration and liking of the man and its deep sadness at his death.

  4. […] intakes can at least ‘gape’ slightly to increase airflow at high Alpha and low speeds”. Peter Collins who flew Rafale, and is knowledgeable of the Typhoon’s performance, claims that below 10,000 […]

  5. […] level, but we’re not dumb enough to try to fight Typhoons at 50,000 feet or 45,000 feet.” Peter Collins who flew Rafale, and is knowledgeable of the Typhoon’s performance, claims that below 10,000 ft […]

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