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Our pilots acquitted themselves very well indeed, winning some and losing some. The icing on the cake for me came when I was programmed to fly alone against two F-15’s and two F-5E’s in a 1v2v2 combat mission. I had the major advantage of having Desmond Hughes on the ground radar, my observer from Phantom days, providing me with a running commentary on the positions of the other four aircraft. It was a totally exhilarating fight which included a horrendous, near-head-on collision with one of the F-15’s. Nearly time for brown trousers and far better than any video game!
In one brief skirmish with the pair of F-15’s, Desmond had guided me in to intercept them from their left-hand side. They were in relatively close attack formation and didn’t see me until I was racing in on their beam at 600 knots. They were less than a mile away crossing right to left at about 450 knots when they saw me and decided to take evasive action. Because of the need to conserve fuel they could only use reheat/afterburner and their supersonic capability when engaged in actual combat manoeuvring. But instead of breaking hard towards me and splitting up to give me two targets to cope with, which is what I expected, they decided to try to outrun me and deny me a missile shot. Applying full reheat, they both tried to run but it was too late. As I turned hard-left close behind them, I simulated the release of two Sidewinders at very short range. “Fox Two. Fox Two! Splash two F-15’sâ€. Why they chose to run rather than fight is still beyond me. Probably it was a result of our earlier close-in engagements.
During that electrifying combat sortie I claimed a total of seven kills – a mixture of Eagles and Freedom Fighters – with no kills against me. Back on the ground and when we reviewed each combat on the screen in the debrief, my claims were fully justified. This was too much for one of the F-15 pilots who tried to say it was all wrong. But the Aggressor pilots, bless their honesty, told him he had been well beaten and should take it like a professional – as they did themselves.
My two young first-tour pilots Charlie Cantan and Steve Thomas made remarkable progress during the detachment, understanding at last the tactical lessons that we had been trying to teach them verbally but without access to such digital technology. In fully developed fighter combat, a fraction of a second delay in decision-making is all it takes to make the difference between winning and losing your life. There are many nuances to this process of tactical thought. Anticipation, experience and knowing your adversary’s capabilities, intent and future position can only be properly acquired in the air. This learning process usually takes a lot of time. As a result during training at our home base, I had been able to ‘shoot down’ Charlie and/or Steve within a minute of commencing combat. Following the ‘Deci’ detachment those days were now over – the penny had dropped and it took rather longer for me to achieve the same result.
Our successes had rocked the fighter world. We had built a reputation that was to have a major impact on the conduct of the Air War in the Falklands just a few months later.”
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you are interested in Swedish fighters and their technology. Go to this article by a Tieck Air Force author and click translate to English. It’s incredibly good!
Then ask him to publish this article on the blog. You only need to make small cosmetic improvements, what I can see it’s all factually correct and he based it on open information, references are below the article.
You could also add interviews with him and Tieck pilots in follow up articles to get their view on the practical use of links in the Gripen.
He had some problems with the translation of some Swedish commands in the J35 CGI link, here it is:
Note * – these were the following commands: FEL (Error), HÖJDÄNDRING (Altitude change), FLERA MÃ…L (Multiple targets), JAKT (Fighters), REMSOR (Chaff), NYTT MÃ…L (New target), OSÄKERT (Unconfirmed), VARNING (Warning), MÃ…LFART (Target speed), MÃ…LKURS (Target course), O (Zero), FRAM (Collision course), TVÄRS (Abeam), BAK (Rear) (these last three describe the type of intercept), ÖKA (Speed up), STIG (Climb), BRANT (Steep turn), KVARLIGG (Stay) and LANDA (RTB).
You don’t have to reference me as correcting these words, I’m in the background.
” It was a terrific training opportunity – even though the Italian pilots never turned up in the air to fight (but they did wear flashy flying suits)”
I don’t understand this peculiar british way to discredit italians… The WW2 is long gone.
Anyway: in 1981 it was forbidden to ITAF pilots to do DACT. This changed in 1986. And Sea Harriers got their fair share from the old 104s… http://web.tiscali.it/F104-Starfighter/harvs104.htm (sorry italian language…)
Despite Commander Ward’s school girl giddiness at having supposedly bested the Yanks in DACT, (seems to be mandatory in every Brit Fighter Jock’s interview…) the reality is that he and his Harrier would be nothing more than a BVR speed bump to a pack of F-15’s.
At 300 feet and 95 MPH, a Spad could shoot down an F15. Of course an F15 would never engage in such a silly fight nor in real life, would an F15 do something similar with a Harrier. Get rid of the computer pod, arm the missiles and tell the pilots that the fight is for real and Snarkey does not live to see another day.
I know a F15 pilot who now flies for a airline in the US I wonder if he ever did combat with a Sea Harrier
Hi Joe,
you are interested in Swedish fighters and their technology. Go to this article by a Tieck Air Force author and click translate to English. It’s incredibly good!
Then ask him to publish this article on the blog. You only need to make small cosmetic improvements, what I can see it’s all factually correct and he based it on open information, references are below the article.
You could also add interviews with him and Tieck pilots in follow up articles to get their view on the practical use of links in the Gripen.
He had some problems with the translation of some Swedish commands in the J35 CGI link, here it is:
Note * – these were the following commands: FEL (Error), HÖJDÄNDRING (Altitude change), FLERA MÃ…L (Multiple targets), JAKT (Fighters), REMSOR (Chaff), NYTT MÃ…L (New target), OSÄKERT (Unconfirmed), VARNING (Warning), MÃ…LFART (Target speed), MÃ…LKURS (Target course), O (Zero), FRAM (Collision course), TVÄRS (Abeam), BAK (Rear) (these last three describe the type of intercept), ÖKA (Speed up), STIG (Climb), BRANT (Steep turn), KVARLIGG (Stay) and LANDA (RTB).
You don’t have to reference me as correcting these words, I’m in the background.
Cheers,
Olof
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” It was a terrific training opportunity – even though the Italian pilots never turned up in the air to fight (but they did wear flashy flying suits)”
I don’t understand this peculiar british way to discredit italians… The WW2 is long gone.
Anyway: in 1981 it was forbidden to ITAF pilots to do DACT. This changed in 1986. And Sea Harriers got their fair share from the old 104s…
http://web.tiscali.it/F104-Starfighter/harvs104.htm (sorry italian language…)
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Despite Commander Ward’s school girl giddiness at having supposedly bested the Yanks in DACT, (seems to be mandatory in every Brit Fighter Jock’s interview…) the reality is that he and his Harrier would be nothing more than a BVR speed bump to a pack of F-15’s.
At 300 feet and 95 MPH, a Spad could shoot down an F15. Of course an F15 would never engage in such a silly fight nor in real life, would an F15 do something similar with a Harrier. Get rid of the computer pod, arm the missiles and tell the pilots that the fight is for real and Snarkey does not live to see another day.